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Jul-29-2010 @ 11:09 AM
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Hi everyone,
I was wondering if someone could awnser me this;
Can you navigate from Coltishall to Horstead by cruiser?
Next week will be my 3rd holiday on the broads but I've never ventured past wroxham, my partner has family in Horstead so we were wondering if we could get there by boat.
All the info I've read says Coltishall is the furthest navigational point but I'm not sure why this is or if anyone has tried going further. Our boat isn't so big (only 4 birth) so would this make a difference?
I hope someone can awnser my quisetion, have a very stubborn boyfriend and dont want to get stuck where we can't be towed out of 
thanks!
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Jul-29-2010 @ 11:22 AM
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Coltishall and Horstead are effectively the same place. Coltishall on one side of the river and Horstead on the other. The limit of navigation is Coltishall Lock.
Hope this helps.
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Jul-29-2010 @ 11:27 AM
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I assume you are hiring? If so the limits of navigation are just that, limits. You should not attempt to go beyond them, they are set with local knowledge and good reason.
Owner? Then it's up to you if you risk damaging your boat and getting stuck.
Suggestion, get a dinghy to potter in the less accessible places, even to attempt to row up to Horstead. With a dinghy you could probably get yourself out of trouble. Lifejackets a good idea!
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Jul-29-2010 @ 11:36 AM
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My partner's gandparents live just before the mill pond in horstead, all we can see on the map is that the river splits in two at coltishall, i assumed one part went into the mill pond and the other part carried on past. I didn't realise there was a lock. We were hoping to get as close as we could to the mill pond and take his grandparents out for the day(they cant walk too far),I guess this isn't an option.
Thanx for your replies, We'll have to re-think!
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Jul-29-2010 @ 11:54 AM
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You don't need to rethink.
Although you can't navigate into the mill pond you can navigate down the right hand fork in the river and moor below the lock.
From there it is only a short walk over to the mill pond.
Lovely little spot, narrow and the bank is 'unmade' so you need to be careful getting on and off.
Also only a short walk to one of the best pubs on the broads for quality food.
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Jul-29-2010 @ 12:53 PM
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I went to the lock on the right hand fork this year.
It is very narrow and shallow.
I was OK going towards the lock but when I turned - 23 foot Freeman - it was a bit tight and on the way back I did touch bottom and stalled the engine.
So care needs to be taken.
It is a NO - NO for hire boats !
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Jul-29-2010 @ 1:09 PM
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We do that run quite often, right up to the locks, but it def is shallow once you get past the pub and the fork in the river. Our boat has a draft of less than 2 feet and we have touched the bottom just like Paul!
I am sure there used to be a sign up by the Rising Sun that said it was the limit of navigation for hire boats but there isn't one there now. However, I am sure the maps show that as the end of "navigable" waters (ie deep enough and wide enough for cruisers).
That said, we have seen a fair few hire cruisers go trundling by but I wouldn't take the risk of any damage myself, not on a hire boat as the yard are likely to charge you. Turning by the locks is narrow so even with a small boat (like ours or Pauls) you end up in the even shallower water by the bank.
A dinghy or rowing boat for that stretch is probably your best option but I appreciate your relatives may not be keen on getting into that if they have limited mobility. Can someone drive them to the Green at Coltishall and they could get on board there.
happy hols,
Karen
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Jul-29-2010 @ 1:13 PM
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Odd I was up there in 38' hire boat in June and had no real problems. Bit shallow and narrow but nothing too serious.
The limit of the navigation is the lock not the Rising Sun so there is no reason a hire boat shouldn't go there.
Jeremy
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Jul-29-2010 @ 1:22 PM
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Ahh some conflicting views!
Well I personally wouldn't want to risk it, as you say, I wouldn't want to be paying for any damage caused to my hire boat.
My partner on the other hand spent a lot of time in that mill pond and the river as a child and is absolutely sure we can get right up to it.
Shallow water is obviously a worry and i doubt he would want to be in the river trying to free our boat(and believe me he would try it thinking he could pull it out by himslf!)so I think we'll give it a go but not go right up to the lock. Maybe i could get out and walk a way, then we could moore up before the water starts to look shallow. we can hire dingyd from our boat yard so thats also an option.
Thanks again!
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Jul-29-2010 @ 1:31 PM
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Well its a fair few years since we hired and we were told that we should go no further than the pubs. And I can assure you we have touched the bottom more than once, including just a month or so ago.
I think it best of the OP checks with his yard for draft and clarification rather than any of us telling him its definitely OK.
I don't have my Broads map with me at home, its on the boat, so if I am wrong about the limit of navigation I stand corrected, but as an owner we keep a keen eye on the depth and I can assure you its shallow especially by the locks. Will be better after some rain of course, so there will be some tidal and weather differences.
Karen
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