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Need to lift out our boat she is 40ft- wide beam- 13ft.

Anyone know of anywhere reasonable on the southern
broads, Norwich end?

Just had a quote for a lift in and out, hard standing
and pressure wash at Bell's £470.83.

I know Haven marina in Lowestoft is cheap, but we don't
really want to trail all that way.

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jdw1589

Jul-22-2010 @ 5:02 PM

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brundall bay marina might be worth a look

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Jul-22-2010 @ 5:11 PM

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Greenway Marine in Loddon.

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Jul-22-2010 @ 10:38 PM

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Including the cost of -
at least 3 men for 1 hour each, who need to move & prepare boats
ready etc,
plus  crane maintenance costs and annual insurance costs for ALL
equipment that is involved with lifting,
a qualified crane operator, a qualified banksman,
annual public liability insurance,
business annual rates,
training costs for staff,
maintenance of pressure washer
water proofs or washing off work overalls
plus the power & water

Plus 17.5% VAT

Plus staff with over 40 yrs experience at moving & craning boats

I personally  think £470.83 is very cheap!

But I maybe wrong...........     Playful Wink

They say that 'Hard work never killed anyone' however, sleepless nights, stress, not taking breaks & not eating correctly may just get you there early!!

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Jul-24-2010 @ 5:47 AM

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Thanks for the replies- guys and also the employee of
Bells boat yard.

In direct answer to the supporter of the £ 473 quote,
this means that the lift outs at Haven marina are
considerably under cutting themselves, if fact, I would
say they are positively giving money away, as they can
lift out and put back and pressure the boat for half
that fee.

Rang Greenways, and he very kindly sent me a text
message via BT, that plays back as an automated voice
message, informing that he is on holiday at the moment
but in any event, the most they can lift is just over 7
ton.

I haven't tried Brundal Bay , but I will, and thanks
for that suggestion. I will post back here when I get a
quote.

This message was edited by Delta3 on Jul-24-10 @ 5:48 AM

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Jul-24-2010 @ 9:41 PM

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I would just check that the quotes are 'like for like'. You often find
quotes on craning can vary, but there is normally a reason. We all
generally work on a 'per foot' basis and because so many boatyard
owners know each other we do check each other prices! (Mainly to
make sure we are not to cheap!!)

I know the Haven prices,  because I was going to take on the old JPC
workshop, unfortunately Haven had a strict published price list.
Trade discount was only 15% from this list.

Bell Boats have always been competitive so if they are a lot more,
I guess they are either too busy, don't need the work, or may prefer not
to have DIY'ers on the yard??

But John Bell is very good, so if any doubt just speak directly to him
about it if you prefer to be lifted in Brundall.
Im a strong believer that business is between two people anyway, as a
slight misunderstanding or miscommunication could be damaging in
the future to a business. Unless it was a formal written quote.

Good luck anyway



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Jul-24-2010 @ 10:00 PM

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Just for interest the Haven price looks about the same as Bells, however
they both do a 'single' lift option, this is where the boat can be left in
the slings for 1 hour.

Basically as soon as the boat is put down and the slings removed, and
crane moved etc - this is then No1 lift, its then classed as No2 lift when
the crane returns.
As you can see it can be misleading, so always best to check.

http://www.lowestofthavenmarina.co.uk/price.asp

http://www.bellboats.co.uk/cranage.html

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Jul-24-2010 @ 10:31 PM

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Quote:

"(Mainly to
make sure we are not to cheap!!) "

That just about sums the Broads up, the same sort of
cartel was in operation on the Great Ouse ring.

In short, you think that £473 for a lift in and out
with a pressure wash and hard standing is value for
money, I don't and just because you all set an
artificially high price, then you think you can justify
it.

Amended to add the following.

Haven at £12.39 per metre = £148.96 X2 = £406

But they do have special summer rates where the lift in
and out are considerably cheaper, as I said, about half
the Bells quoted price.

This message was edited by Delta3 on Jul-24-10 @ 10:35 PM

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Jul-24-2010 @ 11:12 PM

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I love it when things are mis-understood on here, but Im sure you will
understand the 'joke' better when you read my post again.

However, after your mention of the Norfolk Broads 'cartel' i did laugh!
This is Norfolk you are talking about! But Im guess you were joking and
ive misunderstood that.

Personally I think all the local Norfolk Broads businesses are decent and
very hard working people. Over the years many have continued to
invest despite continued losses. And even though we all know each
other, its very rare we actually see each other, apart from when another
yard in a muddle & need assistance.

Just for interest I've know Bell Boats since I started as a apprentice, and
I hadn't spoken to him for almost 15 years until he phoned a while
back because he needed my assistance on something.
So thats not much of a cartel! I guess we at least need to meet now
and again??

So I will just now enjoy the mention of the Broads 'cartel' and refrain
from posting anymore on this thread.
I will go to bed, as it's Sunday tomorrow and we have a boatyard to
open up so we can provide diesel, pump outs & breakdown cover for
our customers.

Nite Smile

They say that 'Hard work never killed anyone' however, sleepless nights, stress, not taking breaks & not eating correctly may just get you there early!!

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Jul-24-2010 @ 11:20 PM